What Could Have Been: Odyssey 5 Season 2
- April 27th, 2015
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This month’s “What Could Have Been” is brought to you by special request (a while ago, actually, but I wanted to cover Odyssey 5 in a Primer first). As it turns out, Odyssey 5 doesn’t have a whole lot of information out there on how it would’ve progressed; Manny Coto, the show’s creator, has been fairly tight-lipped about his plans and still has a fervent belief that he may be able to resurrect or remake the show some day. It’s hard to argue with the idea that the show would likely be far more successful if it were made today than it was at the time, although ratings weren’t behind its cancellation. Almost everything I’ve found comes from one source: the DVD commentary for episode 1. However, there’s still enough tantalizing tidbits here that we can reconstruct some of the series’ plot and eventual resolution. Let’s look at the plans for Odyssey 5 Season 2 and beyond.
This is kind of hearsay because I’m having trouble getting my hands on the DVD commentary directly. As soon as I can, I’ll adjust anything here that I can get more info on. Now, the first thing to establish is that earlier interviews with Coto indicate he’d planned for the show to have at least 5 seasons worth of material, and a loose arc and plan to fill that time frame. Obviously, some things would have to be adjusted on the fly, and it seems like even the length was on the table–later interviews suggest he was prepared to wrap it up in as little as 3 seasons. Whether that’s an evolution of storytelling or an attempt at reducing the amount of time and money needed to tell it is unknown, but being sent back 5 years seems like it sets up for 5 seasons quite nicely.
- One of the key points for Odyssey 5 season 2 specifically would be reappearances of the Seeker. Exactly how that’s possible is unclear, given the nature of their time travel and the fact that he was explicitly not allowed to, but it’s suggested that he included aspects of himself in the five of them as part of sending them back. He may have held information that would help the crew to determine whether the humans or Synthetics were the ones responsible for the destruction of the Earth.
- As it was becoming clear in the final moments of season 1, the Sentients/Synthetics don’t seem to be the bad guys. They’re certainly not all Terminator SkyNet or anything. The conflict was becoming a lot grayer, and part of that would mean convincing Chuck and the others that the AI don’t necessarily mean them any harm. To prove they mean it, one of the possibilities being considered was the resurrection of Chuck’s wife, Paige. How the Sentients would be capable of that isn’t exactly clear; presumably it involves the nanobots.
- Coto kept a lot of the details for what would happen directly after the season finale to himself, but he did elaborate on the larger goals of the series, to an extent. The first step towards that would be the revelation that neither of the groups we’d seen so far were responsible for the destruction of the Earth–not a huge surprise, given that the Seeker had found other worlds destroyed in the same manner. Instead, an outside group was responsible: dubbed the “exterminators,” at least for production purposes, they’d have been a group determined to wipe out AIs anywhere that they emerge, presumably out of a fear that they’d go crazy and destroy all life or something.
- Faced with this external threat in the form of the Exterminators, the Humans and Sentients would have to cooperate to save the Earth–a cooperation that would grow and lead to better understanding and interdependence between the two groups. Ultimately, humans and AI would merge together, Singularity-style, to become a single hybrid. This is a pretty radical idea for television, and definitely not something I’d have guessed going into the show. It’d be nice to see a show where the AIs aren’t evil or second class citizens.
- One last detail: it’s said that in spite of the fact that other planets have fallen to this same fate prior to Earth, the threat does originate there. How, then, did it happen elsewhere first? Well… can’t answer that one. We do have one possible answer, though: time travel already exists in the world of Odyssey 5. It’s possible whatever the Exterminators were, they were created from Earth and sent back. But that’s just speculation.
Unfortunately, that’s about it as far as info on the resolution of Odyssey 5 Season 2 or beyond. We still don’t know what would become of the individual characters, and there are plenty of plot questions that the above doesn’t cover (like what the deal was with the viruses and the Martian rock). But it does answer some of the big ones that were left, and might help to bring a little closure to the story. If I learn anything else about Odyssey 5 or how it might have continued, I’ll update this post immediately. But until then, we’re left to ponder What Could Have Been.
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I just finished this series and I’m so bummed there isn’t a season two! Maybe I’ll go tweet at Manny Coto.
Odyssey 5, Great show! I love it! Yes, we need and want season 2 and behond!!! When season 2 is going to start?
So wish there had been more seasons. I hate it when shows get cancelled with big cliff hangers!
It’s been several years, but a reboot would be great as far as I’m concerned.
Loved the show, still thinking about it and checking the web occasionally, if there are any news. That is how I found this.
I really do hope that they will make more seasons. Until then, I will keep watching my season 1 DVDs.
I’m one of the many fans of Odyssey 5 from Australia, and even after all these years we will not rest until Manny Coto finishes what he started! What happens to Angela Perry? Does Kurt go to jail for something he didn’t do?
The ending of season 1 left us all hanging with no closure of what happened. This is why fans will not EVER let this go. I have even set up a Facebook page: “Bring Back Odyssey 5” to help bolster as much support from the global fan community as possible, so that Manny will do the right thing and complete this fantastic story!
That facebook page was yours? I just found it this morning, trying to add O5 to my watchlist. It was so sad seeing only 24 likes.
Started watching the show years ago, but I couldn’t find the rest of the episodes until now, so I’m just now hurting over the mad cliffhanger.
2018, and sometimes it still comes back to me how I wish the show had continued…
Watching some old VHS tapes with the first episodes as I write this comment.
Season 1 was good, we need an ending though, or even better more seasons to complete this mission
Recall seeing Coto mention that “it starts on Earth and spreads outward from there.” The provocative suggestion in the final episode that the Moon is hollow and some sort of construct along with the virus-like nanobots (?) activated from moon rocks by the Americium in the smoke detector imply that the Exterminators have a technology superior to both the AIs and the Seeker. If so, maybe the Exterminators could physically travel back in time. If they can create an artificial object like the Earth’s moon, they’e got some hella tech.
The Seeker mentions in the first episode “You are the first survivors from a sundered world I’ve ever encountered.” One possibility then is that if some humans survived the earth’s destruction, maybe some of the AIs from earth also survived. If AI evolution is millions of times faster than human evolution, then maybe the Exterminators are evolved AIs from earth that turned bad and developed physical time travel. Perhaps the Exterminators are bad AIs involved in a war with the good AIs.
I’m definitely bummed that the series ended when it did. Great show, totally wild mind-blowing concepts. How do you top the opener? Earth gets destroyed, a handful of humans of left in the space shuttle.
Would seriously like to know what those virus-like AI nanobot things are that emerge from the moon rocks at the end of the last episode. They seem to target the synthetic humans created by the AI. Darn shame the show never got more seasons.
I discovered a few Odyssey 5 episodes on YouTube and bought the DVD as I found it a well cast and an intriguing show. I like how the story gives everyone a second chance to make things right. Its interesting to consider if we go back in time would we make the same choices and what is the nature of fate.
If not a full 5 seasons how about 5 Big screen movies sequenced over the next 5 years. Starting from where season 1 left off. Take a good look at the star trek franchise and how it developed.
I bought this DVD back on 2002 as I was a fan of Peter Weller. I’m rewatching it in 2020/21 and it’s obvious to me this is all predictive programming.
NASA, CADRE, transhumanism, nano technology, Mars. We are living in end of days. Earth will not be destroyed but split. 3D or 5D. You choose.
I still wish Manny would at least give us the story, since clearly a resumption is now going to be impossible. This show was so good :(
I always thought that Dr. Travelor was the bad guy in this, or one of them. He was trying to get them to continue their mission. Everyone else seems part of the AI. I don’t think the Seeker was a bad guy…but not impossible.
Excellent show but disappointed with the way the series ended. Was surprised that the creators of the show didn’t have the forethought to at least do a movie to bring the series to a satisfactory conclusion.